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27/04/2008 13:53:54
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wustvn
Joined: 18/04/2008 14:52:57
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Hello again to all of you guys here...
This is the puzzle that I've promised, may this puzzle fits in this section, and I hope you guys here can help me.
This number puzzle is in .xls file format. It looks like SUDOKU/HITORI. Since here I can't attach .xls file, I put it (name: sept0940.xls) at:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=459560#459560
(Don't worry this is being a spam ).
There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each.
Each tables contains of numbers, which here I give example 1 to 40, that should be found its relationships/patterns, so the next numbers can be placed correctly in a certain rows in each tables.
In EACH tables, each numbers appears just one time and there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally and diagonally.
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24.
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else.
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have been filled with numbers 1 to 350.
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should have a solution, shouldn't it?
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly).
Thank you to those who want to pay attentions and interested in this puzzle.
P.S:
1. Because of their similar shapes, in sheet #26 & #27 I rearranged the tables that I think could be the "keys" of this puzzle.
2. This "big sizes" puzzle is very tough, (artistic?) and really needs hard thinking...
Best regards
Steven Wu
Bali - Indonesia
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27/04/2008 14:10:34
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Johan
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The first thing that occurs to me is that every row of numbers is left aligned and strictly increasing; the width of every table is some tenfold >= the length of the longest row.
To me it intuitively suggests the grid sizes were adapted to the numbers instead of the other way around. Every table can be represented by a sequence of 40 numbers from 1 to 10, or 0 to 9, corresponding with the row of the next number. Could it be that the tables are a kind of histograms derived from such sequences? Or what makes you think these grids can be completed?
Can you tell us more about why your friend wanted this puzzle solved or where he got it from?
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02/05/2008 14:49:13
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wustvn
Joined: 18/04/2008 14:52:57
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Dear Johan,
Yes, every row of numbers is left aligned and strictly increasing; the width of every table doesn't need to be some tenfold and indeed >= the length of the longest row.
Every table can be represented by a sequence of 40 numbers from 1 to 10, 0 to 9, 2 to 11, 3 to 12, etc and like SUDOKU/HITORI even it doesn't need to numbering the rows though.
As you see total amount of the numbers in each rows at the right side are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should have a solution, shouldn't it?
I've told you before we didn't know where this came from, same as we see a SUDOKU/HITORI, then I can't tell you who its author...
Hope you understand my English.
Thx.
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03/05/2008 13:16:23
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Johan
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It is not as obvious to me as it seems to you that this is a puzzle asking for a solution. Can you shed a light on what makes you so motivated to solve this (visiting hundreds of forums for months and even offering money for a solution) if it is not clear where it came from or what it is for? Wouldn't that effort be better spent searching backwards, tracing the origin as far as you can?
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03/05/2008 15:30:46
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wustvn
Joined: 18/04/2008 14:52:57
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Have you seen this?
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1190794945
Thx.
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